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2012 and Beyond

Jay Weidner interviews John Jay Harper

Part 2

Jay Weidner "Infinity: The Ultimate Trip ? Journey Beyond Death" is now opening all across the United States, and it'll be in various places. You can go to www.sacredmysteries.com to find out all about that.

It's about life after death. Also I want to remind you of Sacred Mysteries two films on 2012 called 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013. Check out all of the films and video that we have at www.sacredmysteries.com - Sacred Mysteries DVD’s for the New Millennium.

If you're interested in John Jay Harper, you can go to his site at www.johnjayharper.com. And he's got a whole bunch of goodies here: videos, books, all sorts of stuff, and articles even. Go there and check it out. It's very interesting. He's barking up the same kind of trees that I am, so we have actually a lot in common. Fortunately, he has a science background, which I do not have. So I cannot claim some of the things that he can claim, because I just don't have the cred.

But be that as it may, I wanted to talk to you about the pineal gland, because it really is the seat of the soul, and it is the key, I believe, to understanding alchemical processes. The pineal gland, as you know, it emits certain secretions. These secretions are very interesting in what they do to the human body. The way that gravity pulls these secretions down through the endocrine system is also very interesting, because in some ways these secretions actually rule the entire endocrine system, and therefore the immune system, the consciousness, the body, and everything else. I was wondering what you thought of that?

John:  Well, I think you're right on target, Jay. Let me take this conversation global, then we'll bring it down to the cell level within the brain and body itself. One of the fascinating insights that I was given during interviewing near death experiencers 20 years ago up to about 15 years ago, was this constant idea that they had undergone a physiological change from their near death experience. Now, they couldn't articulate it for the most part. There are a couple individuals in my book, however, who did a very good job of it. Actually now have medical patents on some light emitting diode technologies, that will be used in healing, that they gained from their near death experience itself. But what I realized with a science background and my own after death communication, because what happened to me, Jay, was when I saw my deceased friend, who was an optics physicist by profession ?? George Viguet, again, was his name ?? and this begins the opening chapter in my book.

But I realized from seeing my friend George, that I was undergoing a very dramatic, energetic shift in consciousness, where I could see him shimmering in front of me. I could feel this. I had come out of a kind of a deep sleep, or a lucid dream state, at 4:00 AM in the morning that June 1988 date that will live in infamy, for me at least.

When I saw George, it was a telepathic communication that got my undivided attention. Basically what I saw was, it was a very healthy, very smiling, very wonderful presentation of my friend, who I could confirm immediately was not dead. This telepathic communication, though, had so much depth to it. It was feeling. And of course telepathy ?? "tele" meaning distance and "empathy" meaning feeling ?? so feeling at a distance was what I experienced.

When I started interviewing near death experiencers they were conveying the same idea that telepathy was what we were going to experience more and more as earth changes accelerated. And many of them were very emphatic about that point that the third eye was opening. Now they didn't say the pineal gland and they didn't talk about the biochemistry. But they told me that the third eye would open. So that led me into this investigative path of looking at the physics and the metaphysics of spiritual metaphysical experiences.

And again, I concluded from my own experience that there had to be, as you say, a hormonal connection then with all most all metaphysical experiences. That there was something going on in the chemistry of the body through DNA and that DNA, RNA... Let's give our listeners a real quick update on DNA. DNA, which is a substance, a chemical, deoxyribonucleic acid, that drives all living systems; it's in the air we breathe, it's in the water we drink, it's in every living cell in our body that can replicate itself, self?assemble itself.

So from this you might say genetic blueprint that's within DNA, what we find is that there's these self?assembly machines that can breakdown all the electromagnetic fields of the body into chemical systems. The chemical becomes a biological or physical cell and that generates protein. And proteins are the motors by the way that drive our behavior, that drive our feelings, drive our thoughts.

This entire living system of the earth, for example, has now been mapped as a living cell itself. It's a living being that we're enveloped in, that we're integrated within. And so the earth changes then become very significant to what might be going on now within us. We are, as the ancients said, "As above, so below. As within, so without." So we are seeing these levels of mirrors, if you will, reflecting all this information at scales of economy up and down the entire biosystem, the biosphere. And so it is my belief now to summarize will quick what's going on with earth changes, is that we're being....

2012 and Beyond

Jay Weidner interviews John Jay Harper

Part 1

Jay Weidner:   The new film "Infinity: The Ultimate Trip ? Journey Beyond Death" is now opening all across the United States, and it'll be in various places. You can go to www.sacredmysteries.com to find out all about that.

Also I want to remind you of Sacred Mysteries two films on 2012 called 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013. Check out all of the films and video that we have at www.sacredmysteries.com - Sacred Mysteries DVD’s for the New Millennium.

Also, I want to remind everyone that I have a sequel to my article "How Stanley Kubrick Faked the Apollo Moon Landings" coming out in about three days. It's called "Secrets of the Shining" in which I deconstruct Stanley Kubrick's movie "The Shining" and show that it is actually talking about the Moon and the Apollo landings ? how he faked them and the horror and the terror that he went through to do it. Very interesting. And I think it's going to be quite controversial when it comes out, hopefully, within the next couple of days. Go to www.jayweidner.com to find out more.

I've always wondered why everybody who's on the edge of this research ? or almost everybody ? lives in Washington State. It's a very odd thing. I, until about eight months ago, lived in Washington State pretty much for years. And Cliff High, of course, comes from Washington State, and Laura Lee, from the old Laura Lee Show, lives in Washington State, and so does John Jay Harper.

John is the author of the book "Tranceformers: Shamans of the 21st Century", a great book. And John's interested in a lot of the same things that I'm interested in, which is why I wanted him on the air. How are you, John?

John Jay Harper:  Fine, Jay, great to be with you.

Jay:  Yeah, yeah. You used to be on the Laura Lee Show, didn't you?

John:  Yes, about 15 years ago, I got my start.

Jay:  I remember that. I was on her show about once a month back in the old days, but she's long gone now.

John:  Well you know, I haven't talked with Laura in about a decade. But I'm glad you brought her name up because I need to give her the credit for bringing me to the radio waves initially. And I did her show many, many times myself, and what a phenomenal individual to bring all of us together now.

Jay:  Yeah, she was, and she really deserves a lot of kudos. She disappeared. She lives, I hear, out by the coast now in Washington, and has pretty much become a recluse. This is sad because she really did a lot of good work. In fact, a lot of the radio shows that are out right now, including Coast to Coast, are based on the format that she had all those years ago in Seattle.

John:  I agree completely. And I remember her husband Paul was very instrumental in the technical end of that too.

Jay:  Yeah, that's right. He was the guy, the engineer and everything. He ran the business. He was a great guy. Yeah, we had a lot of fun with Paul.

John:  Yeah, I remember sitting around the table. You're bringing back memories of days with Dick Hoagland and Gregg Braden, and so on and so forth. And I'm sure we've probably crossed paths at some point there many years ago as well, and probably didn't even know who we were dealing with at the time.

Jay:  Probably not. Yeah, Richard Hoagland used to come up to Seattle; I brought him there about three times. I think I brought Braden there once too. Those were the good old days, but now all these people are big hot shots. And you're still here, and I can hardly believe you've got eight grandchildren. You must've gotten married at a young age.

John:  [laughs] I did, thank you.

Jay:  Yeah, well... So tell me about your work. I know about "Tranceformers" but what else do you do?

John:  Well, what I did Jay for a lot of years was I was a computer scientist/electronics engineer for the Department of Defense. I was pretty much involved in the space and missile command business for about 20 years. Lived all over the United States, worked primarily Naval Weapons Center in California, US Army Missile Command Alabama, but other areas as well in the Seattle area with the Navy. So my background primarily was information theory systems, software engineering, those types of activities. And as you know from my story my life changed dramatically in 1988 when I saw a supposedly dead colleague, a physicist friend of mine, George Viguet, who I had worked with for about 17 years suddenly came to me one morning and changed my life.

Because I went from a left brained scientist who really had no interest in anything metaphysical to being confronted with a conundrum. I could not understand how a left?brained person, logical, science?based, could see somebody in front of me at 4:00 AM in a June morning in 1988 who I had buried six months previous from a massive heart attack at age 40 in Huntsville, Alabama.

So I was shocked into this whole genre of metaphysical topics. And that's where I got my start. I started a voracious reading program on near death experience. There wasn't a lot out then, this was in 1988. But I grew with the field with Dr. Ken Ring's work, and Ray Moody, etc. And that's what got me into this loop, Jay.

Jay:  Oh, If I had known that I would have had you in my movie Infinity, the new film I have coming out which is about life after death and probably... I'll send you a copy. You can tell me what you think.

John:  Very good.

Jay:  Yeah, so you had this experience where you saw someone who was dead, and I guess what you could almost really call almost a mystical experience, or that a?ha moment that there's something going on here that you had not noticed before.

John:  Yeah, absolutely and of course what I started to do was I question the whole premise of Newtonian physics initially. I mean, I started looking at things a lot differently, time, space, matter energy, the coordinate systems you might say of basic science. And I realized that folks through the centuries who had had talked about seeing multi?dimensionally, whether that's aliens or angels or something in?between, had probably something similar going on in their brain chemistry that I did at that time. But of course you're right, it's a shock. It's an a?ha, it's a eureka moment. It's also a crisis point for the individual. I went into a real deep sense of chaos. I questioned everything that I had been taught of course in the academic community. I wondered, "If this is really real what does it really mean?"

And over time I realized that we were talking about some of the brain substructures like the pineal gland and the amygdala. These are brain structures that have to do with feelings, and also opening our third eye or pineal gland.

So I started looking at biochemistry. And what I surmised over the years, Jay, was that we're dealing with things like dimethyltryptamine, the same types of compounds that you find in hallucinogenic substances. And, of course, that lead me to Terence McKenna, and then later to works like John Major Jenkins with the shamans and the Maya and Egyptian civilizations.

So that's a quick summary, but I've dealt with folks like Rick Strassman, the psychiatrist, who wrote that wonderful book, "DMT: The Spirit Molecule." So I'm kind of coming full circle, trying to integrate physics and metaphysics. So that's kind of a quick overview of where I'm at now.

I'm really looking now, again, at brain structures, and trying to understand how the larger vision of reality that we're confronted with... Earth changes. We're also looking at things now: sacred geometry. We're looking at the ancient sacred structures around the world. I've looked at not only the pyramids, but things that are going on in the UFO?ET contact community.

But all of these things somehow are part of this larger picture that I've painted for myself. So I'm constantly just recycling through everyone's information, their database so to speak, online. And then also I do talk with some folks that are on the cutting edge of this type of research. So I'm trying to, right now, formulate a large model of reality that's going to integrate science and spirit into one truth.

Jay:  Ah, well, that's called alchemy, actually.

John:  Yeah. [laughter]

Jay:  Yeah, I've been trying to do that, well, for about 20 years now. I had a similar experience in that I was really just a hard boiled journalist, and very cynical, and really believed only in science, and didn't believe in anything at all, and had a mystical experience myself, which I could not explain. I'd had some before, but I had never really cognized them. But once I had it, I couldn't stop. I fell into the thing, and just like you began reading everything I could, until I think I have reached an approximation of what the shape of reality might look like. I can't tell you much more than that. But it's very interesting to watch somebody go from the kind of realist, pragmatist, to the mystic.

We're going to take a break here. We'll be right back with John Jay Harper. We're going to be talking about his book, "Tranceformers."

I want to remind you also that Sacred Mysteries has a new video Sophia Returning with John Lash. Infinity: The Ultimate Trip, and we have The Alchemy of Qi Gong series with Pedram Shojai.

Sacred Earth

Jay Weidner interviews A.T. Mann.

Part 4

Jay Weidner:   I remind everybody that our new film, my new film "Infinity, the Ultimate Trip" is opening across the United States over the next couple of months. If you'd like to see it, or if you'd like to show it, or you want to know more information about it, go to sacredmysteries.com. There's a little banner on the right tells you how to find out all you can about this film.

It's reaching critical acclaim. It's got Robert Thurman, Neale Donald Walsch, Gregg Braden, everybody's in it, Alberto Villoldo, [inaudible 0:29:17].

It's about life after death. It's really good. It's sort of about what we're talking about here tonight so I want you to see it.

Also I want to remind you of Sacred Mysteries two films on 2012 called 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013. Check out all of the films and video that we have at www.sacredmysteries.com - Sacred Mysteries DVD’s for the New Millennium.

We are going through a major change. It's not just switching over to the Age of Aquarius and the Mayan calendar. It's really the culmination of a 6000 or 10,000, or 21,000 year historical period.

I think you're right, Tad, I think we're in for the most gigantic change since possibly since the discovery of fire. I don't know. We're running out of energy. We're losing our topsoil. The oceans are being fished out.

Water is becoming a very, very difficult thing for people to find on the planet. Australia is in a drought, Argentina is in a drought, Israel is in a drought, California is in a drought. I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

Anyway, when you look down the pike here, what do you see happening as far as what's going on in the world around us?

Tad:  Well, I mean obviously what's happening is something that is not just temporary. It's not just a little glitch where the economic problems that we've experienced in this country recently. If you're an astrologer as I have been for a quite a long time, we not only look at what's happening but we also try to understand what is it that's triggering these particular qualities?

For example, I mean an aspect that's going on right at the moment is Saturn directly opposite to Uranus. Saturn is the whole principle of things remaining the same. Structures that are OK and we don't really need to do a lot of about them.

But, Uranus directly opposite Saturn is saying to us something profoundly different. It's saying, these structures are not only not good but they're killing us. They're killing the planet. Unless we wake up to this soon, we're going to actually be in such deep trouble that it's unbelievable.

Of course, we're seeing the signs of this all over the place. The primary issue isn't that it's not necessarily to scare the hell out of people, the primary issue is that we need to make changes in the way we see the world personally; the way we understand our day to day lives and what we need to survive. The way we need to go about this process.

I think it will all actually begins and ends with our individual nature. Once we discover this spirituality of the early cultures that we were talking about earlier, Jay, was very much about the fact that there was a reverence for the Earth of everyone.

All of the religions, all of the matriarchal cultures in particular, were really reverent about the Earth. They saw the Earth not as a God or a Goddess necessarily but of course they did.

They were right because it is our Goddess. It is something so fundamental to the way that we live in this world that we have to respect it. If we don't, then we're going to pay a huge penalty. I think that what's going on at the moment, I think it's really at some level a kind of communication with the Goddess. The Goddess is saying to us basically, you need to change. Not just about recycling. It's about something much deeper, much more profound.

And Jay, I know that you've been interested in these ideas for an awful long time. Your wife has as well. I'm also one of the people who has been writing books continuously about, they look on the surface like they're about astrology, but in reality it's actually about something much deeper.

We're just symptoms of a very deep kind of affliction that we need to kind of cure. The only way we can cure it is collectively. We need to really marshal our forces to do so.

Jay:  Yes, we're having, in some ways, we're having an argument or a collective, heated discussion I'll say right now. The Internet of course and films and things are facilitating this heated discussion. This is the first time that this has ever happened in world history; that we've all been able to do this. Out of this, people are comparing notes and smart people are reaching conclusions. This is also the first time.

We used to be divided by race, and country, and sex and blah, blah, blah. Well, we're not that way anymore. Right now, we're being divided by the things that are dividing us on the Internet, which is basically our interests and our intelligence.

Intelligent people are reaching conclusions. It's historical. Nothing has ever happened like this.

Tad:  Astrology is seen by the scientific community as being something very retro. It isn't really very relevant and yet at the same time it actually is. It's extraordinarily relevant.

Jay:  Yes.

Tad:  There's been a world changing shift that's happened in the 30, 40 years that I've been doing it. People like myself, with a five year architecture degree from one of the best Ivy League schools, are beginning to really not only take astrology seriously but realizing that it almost actually has a kind of like a world view that has to be respected.

Jay:  I agree.

Tad:  A world view that represents interesting material that doesn't just talk about the world itself but rather relates it to you as an individual. It makes it personal. I think in a way, I think we need to have it be profoundly personal for people to get the message. It's like if you don't really realize that it's not just going to affect your economy, it's not going to affect the quality of the car you can buy. If you think about it as collapsing our world of really changing profoundly a lot of things that we take for granted then I think we're really talking about something that's occurring on a totally different level all together.

I believe actually it's happened before. I think that we're heading into... it's like the mythological collapse of Atlantis. It's something I've written about. It's a kind of interesting way of looking at it. Everyone knows about this previous world that abused its resources and its wealth and destroyed itself. I think we're following the path of Atlantis.

Very interesting metaphor to look at because this is really the new Atlantis right now. We have to be extraordinarily careful I think.

Jay:  I agree. I think we're headed, I think that is exactly what's going on. We're doing things that are so much like what Plato wrote about. How Atlantis was destroyed that it's kind of creepy almost. We don't seem to be listening. We've disavowed the Gods as they say.

Tad:  That's right.

Jay:  Now, we're here and we have no way out. We have no spiritual center. That's the other problem that's going on now.

Tad:  That's what I think. I think if there's a kind of bottom line to the books that I write and the ideas that I've found myself connected with. I love the fact that I've connected to people like Terrance McKenna, and Robert Waller and Robert Thurman who I went to a conference with and participated with about two weeks at his retreat center near Woodstock. A lot of people are actually recognizing it, talking about it. We need to really act. We can't fool around anymore. We have to really start taking these things seriously. I love the fact that you're such an advocate of these kinds of ideas.

We really need to make it clear that it's not like, it's not just esoteric mumbo jumbo. It's something that's very realistic. It's very serious and we need to look at it immediately.

Jay:  Here, here I agree. It's the most important stuff that's going on as far as I'm concerned. We're heading towards the singularity that Terrance always talked about. Dang, if we're not going to hit it just about the time that he saw it coming. We're going to have Dennis, Terrence's brother on next week to talk about that. This has been really interesting. I'd like to have you back like maybe once a month or something on the show.

Tad:  Let's do it.

Jay:  Because I think you have a very clear, yes you have a very clear view of what this is about. I think you have a user friendly astrology. We didn't really get into it as much as I wanted to get into it. We are going to putting out a film with Tad coming out soon actually. I'm going to be getting to work on it soon.

Tad:  I think that will help because the interesting thing about all of this, Jay, is that when people talk about what's going on in the world it becomes very abstract.

Jay:  Yes.

Tad:  People don't really know how it affects them directly. A lot of my ideas are about not only that it's happening but also what is your role in it. What can you do as an individual and how is it going to affect you not just now but a little further down the line. I have to say that 2012 looks more and more accurate to me as the time approaches. Much as it scares the shit out of me.

Jay:  I'm with you. I don't know if you're familiar with the work of Clif High, the software genius. If you're not you should go to halfpasthuman.com and check it out because he has a computer program that sort of reads the collective unconscious. He has a series of reports that he's written that have been incredibly accurate. He's predicted the economic collapse of 2008 and Katrina. He says that the world is going to be profoundly different by 2012. Profoundly.

Tad:  Well, it is. I've written a reincarnation report for tarot.com and it also is something that a lot of people have been writing to me recently. It's very new. It's only been out for three or four months. What's interesting is it places you in history. It's very, very specific. It's like people's little secret obsessions are becoming available. We need to explore them. We need to explore these ideas. Thank God, there's so many of us that are on this track.

Sacred Earth

Jay Weidner interviews A.T. Mann.

Part 3

Jay Weidner:   I want to remind everyone about Sacred Mysteries and our new films. Especially our new film Infinity: The Ultimate Trip with Gregg Braden, Neale Donald Walsch and many others. Also I want to remind you of Sacred Mysteries two films on 2012 called 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013. Check out all of the films and video that we have at www.sacredmysteries.com - Sacred Mysteries DVD’s for the New Millennium

And it's really what I think I admire most about A.T. Mann’s work. So, let's just get into the nitty gritty. Most people have got this crazy, of course, superficial idea of what astrology is, and yours is such a deep view that I think you just need as many minutes as you can to extrapolate on what it is that you do. What is it that you do?

Tad:  I think you're right and I agree with you. What I discovered many years ago was that traditional astrology, even though we're in the early years of a new century right at the moment, that a lot of our views about the way we perceive time are quite antiquated, and it's extremely important for us to really understand on not just a personal but a collective level exactly what's going on. And as I was starting to say before, the ideas of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky are very, very interesting because they posited that, one of the primary ideas behind all of this is that we think of our sun as sitting in space somehow with planets revolving around it.

But, in reality, as the Mayans knew, in fact hundreds and hundreds of years ago, it doesn't really work that way because we're on one of the outer rings of the Milky Way galaxy. And we're traveling around the galactic center, we're spiraling around this galactic core at a phenomenal rate, something in the region a half a million miles a day, which means the sun is revolving around the galactic center at about 20,000 miles per hour.

Hard to understand. But, what that means is that instead of just planets revolving around this lazy sun in space and time, in reality it makes a moving pattern with these spirals. The planets moving around the sun, the closer ones like Mercury and Venus make very tight spirals, and then the Earth is a little longer, and then Mars longer still.

But, what's interesting is that when you draw this image in space and time, which I've done in my book "The Round Art" published 30 years ago, that when you show this spiraling solar system, it's fascinating because it looks very much like models of the DNA molecule.

The DNA molecule in every cell is also a spiraling mechanism within a cell which is submicroscopic. They say the DNA, if you could actually expand it would be miles long.

And one of my postulates is that this spiraling solar system through time, and again a horoscope is just simply a slice through that spiraling solar system at the time and date and place when you were born. But, what's interesting about it is that there's an exchange of information between the spiraling solar system and the DNA in every cell in your body.

So, those of us who have made an effort to contact the information that is being transmitted between the cells in your body and the solar system around you, if you can find a way to make that communication, then a whole other world of information becomes available.

And certain individuals in the past have been able to track this DNA, or track the spiraling solar system, back into time. And I think it's even possible to track it ahead into the future.

But, what's intriguing about it is it provides really a kind of tangible way of talking about concepts like not only 2012, but also about reincarnation. And I've actually written books that have talked about both of these ideas.

But, what's fascinating about it is that it brings every single one of us into very close contact with the real core nature of our world.

Edgar Casey, the great psychic, used to talk about something he called the Akashic Record. It was a common term within the Theosophical Society, the mystical societies that were common in the late 19th century and throughout the 20th century.

What's interesting is that he talked about the Akashic Record as though it was an internal library in which you could see everything that had happened in the world. Actually, you could see into the future as well.

He talked about it as though as it was somewhere up in the air above us. Like some kind of invisible ether.

When I came across these ideas 40 years ago, I began to realize this Akashic Record which the psychologist Carl Jung called the Collective Unconscious, for example. In Tibetan Buddhism it's called the Dharmakaya. That this realm that embodies all space and time exists in you. It exists in every cell in your body. If you can discover how to tap into it then other worlds are available.

That's the concept that's really propelled me for all of these years. In true processes like meditation, through spiritual practices, through accidentally one can access it through certain archain substances even.

It's an incredible realm because it gives a real, direct connection for each individual to this timeless process that's happening around us.

Because everything's accelerating so quickly, we really need at this point to really activate the connection to time and space. It's fascinating because when you do this, and I've made really a life out of going those places, that once you begin to do this you have a different perspective on what's going on.

You realize the importance of 2012, which is kind of marking. Not necessarily the end of the world, but it's marking a huge transition. I think it's the death of a particular way of perceiving reality and the possibility of a new concept of reality emerging that's truly relativistic.

The old view I described, it's very static. Actually it's like the way Greeks or Romans saw the world 2000 years ago. We need a more relativistic view that understands how time changes.

There are mathematical formulae that describe it. I have computer programs I've created over the years that look at a person's lifetime, not beginning at birth, not an abstract way but going back to conception.

Jay:  Yes, I want to talk about that. We're going to take a break here, Tad. We're going to back; incredibly fascinating. I love the whole idea of the DNA shaped solar system. I also like the idea of how it shows that time travel is also space travel and space travel is also time travel.

Sacred Earth

Jay Weidner interviews A.T. Mann.

Part 2

Jay:  I want to remind everyone about Sacred Mysteries and our new films. Especially our new film Infinity: The Ultimate Trip with Gregg Braden, Neale Donald Walsch and many others. Also I want to remind you of Sacred Mysteries two films on 2012 called 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013. Check out all of the films and video that we have at www.sacredmysteries.com - Sacred Mysteries DVD’s for the New Millennium.

We're talking to A. T. Mann, Tad Mann, a great mind, written many books, is a genius on architecture, astrology and a lot of other things. Last week, Tad, we had Robert Lawlor on from Australia. Yeah, he's a good friend of mine, and he stayed here at my house in April, shooting a new video that we're going to have out called "The Sacred Geometry of Time." I think you probably saw his lecture in New York, if I'm not mistaken. Right?

Thad:  Yeah. Well, he stayed here for almost a month in Hudson on the East Coast, where I live. I'd never met him before, although I'd known his books for decades and decades, and we spent an awful lot of time hanging out together and realized how resonant a lot of our ideas were.

It's very interesting because often architects talk about buildings as though they're just objects in space, but when you begin to realize how important this dimension of time is, it begins to mean something very, very different. It's funny, around the end of the 60s, when I began leaving architecture, I was still very, very successful, but I went away and worked in Rome for a year after being an architect in New York. I began discovering certain strange, arcane substances.

When one took these substances, what happened was that your time sense became dramatically distorted. It was very, very interesting to me because I discovered that it was possible to really understand time in a profoundly different way, because it changed, it morphed.

And I also came across the teachings of some extraordinary Russian mystics called Gurdjieff and Ouspensky. They were primarily interested in bringing the ancient Eastern mysteries, and they were Sufi ideas and Zen Buddhist ideas and many others, into a form that was a kind of school. It was a teaching that Gurdjieff instituted, and it was about harmonics and about dance and about rhythm and about time.

And I was actually able to, when I began doing astrology in the late 60s, early 70s, I actually developed a lot of the Gurdjieffian ideas into this concept of time that I call "lifetime astrology." One of the most striking aspects of it is that ? and everyone out there is going to realize this ? that time doesn't stay the same. It has this amazing capacity to change.

As we age, as we get older, time moves faster and faster. It accelerates. We begin to feel that passage of time profoundly. It's one thing to say that a calendar is ending, but there's another whole element of it which is that our perception of time is changing even now.

Most of you out there... I mean, I don't know about you ? I'm in my mid?sixties ? but I began thinking about the 80s as being relatively recently, until I realized with a shock that it was actually 30 years ago or more.

And it's intriguing because according to the Gurdjieff and Ouspensky cosmology, we perceive the passage of time logarithmically, meaning when we're young, we see time passing very, very slowly. And as we age, as our metabolism gradually slows down, time accelerates and it moves faster and faster and faster. It's not only that does it happen to us as individuals, but it happens to our whole society.

They say that the amount of information that we have access to each day right now, and it's quite easy to believe, is equivalent to the information that an individual 110 years ago, around the year 1900, would have access to in a lifetime. So, as a result, we're subject to a kind of information overload, not just on an individual level but really on a society level.

My astrology is an attempt to try to get people back into synchronization with time. And it's one thing to identify it as an issue, but it's another thing to really show how in your horoscope, in your life, this element of time actually functions. And I just find it endlessly intriguing and interesting.

Jay:  Well, I do, too, actually, and I've spent a lot of time, excuse the pun, looking into it. And I'm actually completely obsessed with it, to be honest with you. If you go to www.jayweidener.com, I have an article there called "The Alchemy of Time," which is how the higher dimensional torus structures the flow of time. And you can understand how time speeds up as you age because you're literally going down a funnel or a vortex where each spin is faster and tighter than the spin before. And in that you can also understand why reincarnation might be a valid concept because you come out through the other side and you start up again in the same way that you ended.

So, I consider time to be the frontier, the last frontier for all of us. And I just am completely fascinated by it. Also you can see it in the movies.

I want to remind everyone about Sacred Mysteries and our new films. Especially our new film Infinity: The Ultimate Trip with Gregg Braden, Neale Donald Walsch and many others. Also I want to remind you of Sacred Mysteries two films on 2012 called 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013. Check out all of the films and video that we have at www.sacredmysteries.com - Sacred Mysteries DVD’s for the New Millennium