Archive for May, 2010

Half Past Tomorrow with Cliff High Part 4

Thursday, May 27th, 2010

Jay Weidner:  One last reminder about our website www.sacredmysteries.com. Our new film Infinity: The Ultimate Trip: Journey Beyond Death has finally been released to rave reviews. The film features Neale Donald Walsch, Gregg Braden, Dannion Brinkley, Alberto Villoldo and many others.

We're here with Cliff High, and we're talking about some very serious stuff here, and I think you guys should be listening because it may get down to surviving here. So the Nazis were really into this ? and they got a little panicked because their numbers told them that the thing wasn't going to happen until 2440, around there, and so they couldn't reconcile the two. And the entire 20th century ? it sounds crazy ? is a direct result of their fear of what is coming.

Cliff:  Their fear that they were wrong in their math.

Jay:  Exactly. And it went into a panic state, created the Nazis, the Zionists, the ? everything was a creation by them for an endgame. There was no Cold War, they were puppet mastering both sides to conquer the hyperdimensional aspects of the saucer technology. And I call it Project GOOD. GOOD stands for "Get Out of Dodge." And I think [laughs] I mean, this sounds crazy, but I think they're abandoning the Earth, they're so dang afraid of what's going on.

Cliff:  Well, there's the other issue though, too, if they're just planning on trucking out into space, that doesn't do them any good, especially on anything that's electromagnetic, because the level of magnetics that we're talking about it just going to be huge.

Jay:  No, I think that they're burying themselves on Mars, actually.

Cliff:  OK.

Jay:  It's the only thing they can do. There's a lot of proof of a lot of weird things going on on Mars, and I think that it's been going for maybe the last 40 years or so.

Cliff:  And also, unlike Earth, Mars ? if you wanted to tunnel in and be underground when this occurred, Mars would be the place to go. Its relationship to the Sun and relative to Earth is it's slightly further out, so it may not be impacted as seriously, plus it doesn't appear to have the tectonic issues that we do.

Jay:  It doesn't. There are no tectonic plates, there are no magnetic fields. At least I don't think there are. And yeah, I think that's what's going on, and I think it's pretty obvious, actually, to anyone watching. And furthermore, the texts, the ancient Indian texts say that the elites escape and go somewhere. And they actually name the planet, which is Mahar, which is pretty close to Mars. So I don't know, I think that might be the explanation for a lot of what's going on, everything from flying saucers to conspiracies.

Cliff:  All the other goofy stuff, yeah.

Jay:  Yeah. All the conspiracies could be united. This is the grand unified theory of conspiracies, you see. And basically, they're just getting out of Dodge and doing everything they can to get out. And I don't know, do you think that they can be safe underground, like...

Cliff:  There are issues in many different levels, then. If you're talking multiple generations, no, I don't think that's possible. And then you may have to, because who knows how long it's going to take here? There are some indications that volcanism should be extraordinary for 30 or 40 years after this event, so coming back in that period of time wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. So there are all of those kinds of things. Plus, if I'm correct, humans right now are responding in the way that Gurdjieff referred to with the solar looniness right? We're getting a little wacky from this extra input from the Sun.

Jay:  That's right.

Cliff:  And when that magnetic wave goes through, we may indeed find that the 6% or 7% of the populace that is electromagnetic sensitive could be in a world of hurt, maybe even experiencing this thing as a gravity wave, or it may be so severe that we all feel it that way, and that's going to cause dislocation mentally for a great number of people, just ? I'm assuming. But it may be so large that it could be virtually everyone no matter where you are.

Jay:  I think so. Actually, I think ? I don't know. I'll tell you what, you're one of the few guys that I've ever heard who has noticed the change in the color of the Sun. And I'm an amateur photographer, and I've been photographing the Sun for about 45 years, and I'm telling you, I have had to change my filters because the Sun is getting so bright. And I'm adding, now, three neutral?density filters on to get good images of the sun, sunspots and things. And the sun has gone from a yellow, when I was a kid, to a very bright white right now.

Cliff:  Right. And as I'm fond of saying, Superman would have no powers if he showed up today. He's be in a white sun.

Jay:  [laughs]

Cliff:  Just like his home planet. So it's like, "Hmm." No, I did a whole series of sun experiments here in the northwest for, jeez, well over a year and a half, in the 1999 through 2000 period. Drove my wife crazy. I'm sure she thought I was just absolutely nuts.

I had these Secchi?disk kind of things sitting out there to judge whiteness and color, and then also various different types of nomen and various different chunks of plywood with nails chunk in them for alignment and all this other issue, as well as getting out with the sextant, because I was convinced that the sun was behaving oddly in other ways, not just in color and intensity and hue but also in the various different kinds of energies that were coming from it.

And indeed, the Russians were speaking then of the actinic rays going up to the point where they were finding issues with livestock in the Siberia and other areas, where they were attempting to build an economy based on, basically, reindeer herding. And they were having issues relative to the poor reindeer, and even the people, because of the actinic rays. So things were changing, even in 1999, that were at a noticeable level.

And then you start looking outside the US mainstream media, the propagandistic press, and you find all kinds of corroborating information that things just are not right. And no one discusses it here because, of course, then it would break the illusion.

I mean, we all live in the wonderful world of Freemasonry America, the 32nd?degree Scottish Rite version of it all. And we're not to criticize. Bush isn't a moron, the dollar isn't going to die, everything's going to be quite nice, and so on. So, we just don't hear it, and it doesn't exist. Unfortunately, it does exist, and we've got to start facing it.

Jay:  It may be the solar lunatics, who knows, because if they're all acting, then they should all get Academy awards. That's all I've got to say. They're doing the best job I've ever seen. Central casting's doing a great job, and it is truly one of the most amazing things to watch, the stupidity of the American people. But, that said, I have to say, about 25 years ago, I was writing a book about the moon, and working with Hoagland on his early moon stuff. And I was talking to a lot of upper?level NASA people, and one of the guys told me, he said, "There's something really going on, and we're terrified." And I said, "Well, what is it?" And he said, "Well, we've had a group up at the North Pole for five years, and they were studying..."

He wouldn't really tell me what they were studying, but he said that the sun is getting hotter, and it is exponential. And he said, "We're terrified." I've never talked to the guy again, but I'll never forget it. And this was before I'd really gotten into the Hendaye work. So it was like, as I got into the Hendaye work, the bead of sweat worked its way down my brow as I realized that NASA was looking into this, and there was no doubt about it.

Cliff:  Yeah. Yeah. And I've had confirmation at various different levels, from all different kinds of people, especially as I've gotten a certain amount of infamy here. Other people say, "Oh, yeah, you may be a nut?job, but I think I can trust you. And by the way, I know this." It's like, "Oh, OK, that's interesting." And tons of money and stuff going into the South Pole, because they do suspect that in 2012, the outburst will be south?facing. If we're very lucky, and it was magnetically positive, or north?aligned, then it wouldn't be quite so terrible for us. The pole flip would be maybe not even 180 degrees internally, and the external crustal shift might be very small indeed.

However, everything seems to point to the longer cycle that we're in, this 11,800?and?some?odd?year cycle, as being more intense. And it kind of makes sense because, when this occurs, it perturbs the orbits of the planets, which change the cycle for the next time around, thus all of the lack of precision within the precession, which always annoyed me.

Jay:  Me, too.

Cliff:  It shouldn't be that weird. It shouldn't be that irregular.

Jay:  Yeah.

Cliff:  It should be very damn precise. I like my mathematics to work out that way. Well, it does work out that way if you know what's going on, and that every so often you get a new orbital period and your angle's kicked around and your precession changes. Except me, and you get this "well, duh" moment, and that's when you start working on your boat.

Jay:  [laughs] Yes. The boat with a lot of padding, because, baby ?? go ahead.

Cliff:  There's the rub. If you look at some of the historical literature, you find out that people in wicker boats, that is to say the reed boats, survived by coating them in pitch and other things. And you see records of this even in Lake Titicaca, where they revere these boats for having saved the humankind.

Jay:  That's right.

Cliff:  And it probably did.

Jay:  And the boats in Egypt that are stone, near the pyramids, are like a religion...

Cliff:  Yeah. And then look at, what was it, Abydos, the 12 Viking?style boats that were carefully disassembled and stored with reverence, to give us a big clue. And they were in the middle of the damn desert.

Jay:  And also, Isis is always standing on a crescent moon. And the crescent moon, in Egyptian, is called a "barc," which is the same word for boat.

Cliff:  I was going to say, also, the Russian word for boat is "baidar," and a small boat is "baidarka." And the Inuit know their boats as "baidar," from the Russians, but before that, they also had a word that was "aidar, " as in "aidark." So it just goes on and on and on.

Jay:  Absolutely.

Cliff:  And being a small?boat person, I'm a boat nut. I have been all my life. Universe just made me this way. It's my natural response to things. I've been building boats for so long that periodically I have the reduction?of?the?fleet [laughs] kind of moods, where I give boats away because I've got too many of them here and I'm afraid the wife's going to hit me with one of them.

Jay:  [laughs]

Cliff:  But in any event, knowing about boats as I do, I've been fascinated by it all. And then you find out that, yeah, it does kind of make sense. It is possible to make little, tiny boats that are unsinkable and self?righting. And basically, if you're in the right spot and your karma is good, you come through this kind of stuff, and a lot of the ancient myths make sense under those circumstances.

Jay:  Dang, I like that. That's really good. Oh, we only scratched the surface. It's too bad. We were talking to Cliff High. Go to HalfPastHuman, get the you?know?what scared out of you, and start building your boat. I think I need you to start a company for us, so we can build our own boats. And you can supply the plans. We'll buy them from you. Or something like that.

Cliff:  No, no. Buy the plans right now. Philip Bolger, Advanced Sharpie, AS?29.

Jay:  Oh, all right. I will. I'll check it out. You check it out, too, folks. Hey, thanks, Cliff. Been good talking to you.

 

 

Half Past Tomorrow with Cliff High Part 3

Thursday, May 27th, 2010

Jay Weidner: I'm Jay Weidner. Make sure you check out www.sacredmysteries.com for all of our great films and videos like The Alchemical Dream with Terence McKenna, his last film in fact. Also the ultimate film on crop circles Stardreams. And also the two films that defined the entire 2012 subject: 2012: The Odyssey and Timewave 2013.

We're talking to Cliff High, and we're talking about his work and Patrick Geryl's work on magnetics of the sun and how this is probably the key to understanding the physics around what is going to happen in 2012. And the Nazis were obsessed by all this stuff. I've been following that story for a long time, and your discovery of the swastika type motion, looking down from the North, of this magnetic thing, it just strikes me. Because the Nazis have the black sun, and they have a lot of solar myths and motifs.

And when Hitler visited Hendaye in 1940 ?? I don't think I put this in the book ?? but he actually, the first thing he did as soon as the train car pulled into Hendaye was walk straight up to the Cross of Hendaye.

Cliff:  I'm very interested, then, yeah. Well, I hear that they took it actually form the Jain. The swastika actually was taken for the National Socialist Party from the symbols on the Jain palm, all of which are associated within the Jain cosmology with the sun and periodic catastrophes.

Jay:  Yes. And Jainism really comes as, like, a hybrid of Dravidian culture, which carried on a lot of the traditions that speak about catastrophe. In fact, they're the creators of the yuga system and all of that. So it's very interesting how all of this begins to dovetail together.

Cliff:  I think it's scary, yeah.

Jay:  It is scary.

Cliff:  If it was just one or two cultures, then you could convince yourself you were being nuts, that kind of thing. But repeatedly getting kicked in the head by all of this, and then seeing the non?random numbers, the continuous repetition from the Norse myths all the way through the Hindus and the Mayans, basically for the irrational component of the numbers associated with the sunspot cycle, and it's like, there is a big "hmm" in there.

Jay:  Yeah. The thing that people, I think, really have to understand, and it's very important because if you don't understand this, you don't get the rest of it: there really has to have been an advanced culture, a very advanced culture, in the distant past, and they figured all this out and did everything they could to pass that information down. And once you understand that, then everything begins to click together. But the key is to not look at it with your own filters, to try to look at it with what they were trying to tell us and not what you think they were trying to tell us. I think that's what you did. You looked at this with a clear head, and it's very frightening. I don't know what to say. I want to order one of your boats.

[laughter]

Jay:  I can get to 10,000 feet in about 20 minutes from where I live, but I don't know, I really don't.

Cliff:  Well, there is the issue. If this is as devastating as it seems to be, and there appears to be another cycle within these cycles of cataclysms ? in other words, every other one appears to be not quite so bad.

Jay:  That's right.

Cliff:  And then we're at the point of one of the bad ones, unfortunately. And if you look at things like the Narmer plate, we're at the 12th cycle there. They actually recorded 11 previous cataclysms, and the only other group to do that is actually this Northern Siberian myth that records also eleven previous cataclysms, and that even actually records the one where Siberia was slipped in under the ice, and it has a little bit in there about having to flee from the ice that overcame them in just days and just simply wouldn't cease and how they had to basically run as a tribe from it. But anyway, it's all quite frightening. The idea of survival, though, does exist because we've done it before. I'm of the opinion that humans go back at least eight million years on this planet.

Jay:  Oh, good.

Cliff:  And there is demonstrable evidence from my relatives' area in California of this. I mean, they used to do gold mining in the area, and they would go down to bedrock ? or not bedrock, to layers that had been covered over by the mountains eight million years ago, and they would find modern homo sapiens skeletons in the gravel bed.

Jay:  Anyone famous?

Cliff:  Some of them with clothing still sort of hanging on. They didn't put them in there any other way. They weren't swept into the gravel recently. And so if that's the case, then we have to say, "Well, we've been through it so repeatedly that you're probably correct. There was probably a master civilization, maybe 40,000 or 50,000 years back, that set things in motion in terms of trying to preserve this, which basically leads us up to the perversions of the Freemasonry idea today.

Jay:  And the creation ? what religions are really about, which is passing on this message and trying to make people, in a way, fearless, because one day you're going to have to be fearless to survive this kind of thing. How many days long does this take, do you think? Are we going to get hit by a coronal mass ejection and then we're going to get hit by the other things?

Cliff:  It's all part of a process. There will probably be a bow wave, and then that instantly, or completely, or being driven by it pushing, it will be the CME, and then we'll get the flips of the magnetics, and then the crustal action. And there are some suggestions that 40 or 50 days is not unlikely. However, the actual flip of the crust is probably a 40?50 hour process based on my reading of the historical records that are available to be gotten at in this. The issue is the whole process, though, can be thought of as probably a year long, because the build?up to it is quite exceptional.

I had the good fortune when I was a kid ?? or bad fortune, I don't know, whatever ?? to be stuck in Germany as one of the earliest of the dependents of the education forces, and was forced to read a lot because there just wasn't a whole lot else to do.

And I came across a bunch of books that were stored in this old SS building that we used as a library where we were stationed there, and some of these books were really interesting, and they had translations of languages I had never seen before as a kid, and they were done for the German military.

And it was strange books, and some of them were obviously done by people that were prisoners of the Germans, one British fellow who made annotations in his translations as he went along. And he translated a bunch of Sanskrit.

And I read these marvelous stories about this civilization, which I now know to be probably the Harappan civilization, that were discussing about this particular village, and it was from the viewpoint of this headmaster who had all of this stuff set down, and he was the guy who controlled the size of the bricks.

Basically, their hierarchy was in masonry, but it was about building the houses and stuff. But in any event, he talks about a period where the houses fell over because of a big earthquake. No big deal, they rebuilt them. Well, three weeks later they all fell over again because of another big earthquake, so they rebuilt them again.

And it goes on and on this way until about three or four months later they're getting an earthquake a day, and finally everybody is living in tents because there's just no point in rebuilding the houses anymore. And it was then that the translator of that particular book tied that over to another book that he had translated for the Germans that was related to the myth of Manu, the survivor by a boat. And so going back, they were intimately and desperately interested in this information.

Jay:  And then that carries forth into NASA. NASA is desperately interested in this information. And of course the Nazis, German scientists were at the beginning of NASA, which is another incredibly interesting subject. We'll be right back

 

Half Past Tomorrow with Cliff High Part 2

Thursday, May 27th, 2010

Jay:   I'm Jay Weidner. Just a reminder that our website www.sacredmysteries.com has a lot of great videos and films. As they say The Best in Spiritual Films and Videos. Our new film Sophia Returning with John Lash is there as well as the new three part comprehensive Qi Gong series The Alchemy of Qi Gong with Pedram Shojai.

I'm talking to Cliff High of HalfPastHuman. Go to "radio special" there at the top and look at all the great stuff. One of the things that I started tracking, after I finished with the Hendaye work, was to see if there was anybody doing anything in the power structure to prepare for what the Hendaye material was saying was going to happen. That's when I found the Georgia Guidestones and the stuff in the Denver airport, and I started finding all this creepy stuff everywhere. Everywhere.

Cliff:  I was just going to call it creepy, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Jay:  [laughs] And then I began looking into Freemasonry, in a real way, and reading some of the more obscure Freemasonic books and things. And what I've come to realize is that the entire purpose of Freemasonry, as far as I can tell, is to pass on the information of this disaster.

Cliff:  Sure. To perpetuate that and get them motivated and carry that forward, whether they know it or not. Yeah.

Jay:  Absolutely. Robert Lawlor has a book coming out, and I don't want to ace him on this because it's so cool, but he proves that the people who build the United States know that there's some disaster coming. And I'm not talking about the people that are alive right now. I'm talking about the people who created the United States. The founding fathers were completely aware of all this. And when you see his material, it's impossible to believe. Impossible. And I want to get another thing out about what you were talking about with this 19.5. The Merkabah, of course, most people know, and Hoagland's work, we know that there's these massive outpourings on all the planets at 19.47. And what Cliff's saying is that when these bands finally cross over into this latitude zone, that's when they're going to begin throwing out, right?

Cliff:  That's actually, no, the crook of the arm in a normal... In the 11,000 years leading up to the explosion, as the planets twist the equator and pull these arms into a distorted, bent position, as that angle crawls up past 19.47, that's when a sunspot is created normally.

Jay:  Normally. I see, right.

Cliff:  OK. And then, actually, you'll get to a point where, if you think about it as like strings wound around a croquet ball, eventually you can't get any of the bends to go up that high, because you're down near the equator. You've essentially filled up the ball. And that's where we're at now, I believe. And the sunspots that we're going to see now will not occur from the bend, actually, going up to 19.47, but rather from an individual strand of the yarn around the croquet ball being twisted and twisted and twisted, in and of itself, to the point that it flops around kind of like a garden hose with too much water going through it, right?

And as it does so, it will expose that 19.47?degree area, occasionally, for these brief and rather chaotic form of sunspots that will not really follow a normal sunspot parent.

Jay:  Got you.

Cliff:  If I'm correct about this, those sorts of sunspots, probably you'd never get more than two or three of them clustering together, instead of the large groups that we've sometimes seen. And their lifespan should be very brief and extremely violent, in terms of what they're throwing off, because they're basically we can think of as sort of like the rocking of the pressure?cooker weight at an extreme level and little bits of steam coming out occasionally because it's that kind of tension that's occurring that causes these forms of sunspots.

And I'm still tracking Space Weather and NOAA and a few of the other places to see if this recent one is indeed one of those, since we've had such a huge absence of them, 200?plus days this year, an exceptional length of time. In fact, it's so long, it's got the stellar evolutionists talking about a Maunder?style minimum, an ice?age?forming, lack?of?sunspot period. Which, coincidentally, if you read what's his name, Pricesworth, I think? The guy who wrote "Not by Fire but by Ice."

Jay:  Oh, yeah. Great, great, great writer. Yeah.

Cliff:  Yeah. And he's talking about these magnetic reversals, which is exactly what is the cause for the flip within the Earth itself. And all of this stuff is indeed encoded, in extremely intelligent ways, in all these myths. And it's like, "A?ha! They were trying to tell us something!" But getting back to something I wanted to say earlier was your mentioning about the living in the caves in Peru, that's also the same story from some of the Salish?related Native Americans up here east of the mountains where they record living in caves for a long time.

But what I find curious is that the myth structure around the ? say, near the tropical, through the equatorial regions of the planet ? discussed survival by boat, where those in the upper regions suggested the issue of fire and surviving in caves.

Quite curious, because there is predicted in one of Geryl's books the predicted effect from this, and that is that as this flip occurs and the magnetosphere is quite literally turned completely around with a giant hole in it, that in the temperate zones both North and Southern Hemisphere you might get in a situation where you would be absolutely, incredibly inundated with all kinds of flaming objects from space simply because there is nothing out there to repel them.

Jay:  Right, exactly. I mean, you would think at that point anything could happen, and we could get ? we really don't know. The slightest fire with the winds could spread and destroy thousands of acres of forest. Waves could be pushed very high.

Cliff:  Well, that's a curious issue. There is some of the literature that has survived that, if you read it correctly, it's actually from people that survived the whole process, and there is in one of the Sanskrit literatures...

Jay:  Oh, yeah, a lot of it.

Cliff:  I'm sorry, there is a Sanskrit literature where there is this sea captain who writes about the occurrence of 55 hours, basically, of a horrific hell that ended up moving him nearly 1,500 miles.

Jay:  [laughs] That's seriously traveling.

Cliff:  [laughs] Especially by sail.

Jay:  Yeah, I've heard a lot of those stories. I've collected a lot of them, actually, from all over, including the Salish. And I'm Jay Weidner. We're talking to Cliff High. You're listening to the Smoke and Mirrors Radio Hour. Go to HalfPastHuman, look at the graphics. We're going to talk about the Nazis and stuff, too, because I think they knew about it. Believe it or not, Hitler visited the Hendaye Cross. OK, we'll be back. [music]

 

Half Past Tomorrow with Cliff High Part 1

Thursday, May 27th, 2010

Jay Weidner:   My name is Jay Weidner, Make sure you go to www.sacredmysteries.com and check out our new Qi gong series The Alchemy of Qi Gong with Pedram Shojai. Also Sopia Returning with John Lash another one of Sacred Mysteries new films. So, without further ado, I am going to introduce you to the infamous Cliff High of HalfPastHuman.

Cliff:  Go Google "web bots." I'm tired of explaining it.

Jay:  Exactly. That's how I feel about my Hendaye stuff. It's like, "Just go read it."

Cliff:  That's why you wrote the book. Exactly.

Jay:  Yeah, exactly. All right. So Cliff has an awesome computer program which looks into things, and he's been able to predict events, and go Google him and you'll find it out. But what we're here to talk about tonight is Cliff's kind of piggybacked his theory on top of Patrick Geryl's, and a little dash of Hendaye and some Carl Calleman, and put it together and come up with a rather evocative explanation for 2012. And, although I try to stay on the positive, I cannot deny what you are saying because your numbers are coming out right, and that's what worries me, is when the math comes out right.

Cliff:  It's always scary.

Jay:  Yeah. Tell us about the sun. Let's start with the sun, because everybody that listens to this program knows about how concerned I am with what's going on with the sun right now. And I think your explanation may be the one we've been looking for.

Cliff:  Well, my data had always suggested that we were dealing with magnetics at a level that we could barely understand, and so I was always looking at the sun for some kind of an issue there. And unfortunately, I followed the same trail as almost everyone else and postulated something external to the solar system. However, Patrick Geryl's work provides a mechanism within the sun itself that accounts for everything that we're seeing, from the interplanetary problems, from the individual planets having the climate issues and so on. And they all come back to the sun and a natural, periodic cycle.

And basically, it's an issue of the sun's magnetics wind themselves up into a tizzy over about 11,500 years, and then they've got to decide, "OK, we're going to blow off all this extra energy," and they do it all at once. And that's fundamentally Geryl's approach, and I just added a few things there that seemed to make sense and also allow for the prediction of some other items associated with it.

Jay:  So, basically, what we have here is a 37?day rotation cycle on the sun...

Cliff:  On the poles.

Jay:  On the poles, which would be its natural cycle.

Cliff:  Yeah. It should determine how fast the whole sun rotates, in total.

Jay:  That's right.

Cliff:  But it doesn't, because the sun has 98% of the mass and 1% or so of the angular momentum. And the planets, while they have very little mass relative to the sun ?? they only have about 1% of the mass of the solar system ?? they have 99% of the angular momentum. So they're dragging the sun's equator around and lapping the pole every 87 days. And apparently, if you do this over the course of 11,500 years, more or less, it gets to the point where it starts manifesting as we see it. And it kind of makes sense. In my lifetime, the sun has changed from its mellow yellow to its current intense white, and sometimes it seems to be shading over slightly into blue.

And this would be a known effect that we see within small magnetic?containment vessels that are messing around with plasma. And these small containment vessels, formed by giant magnets, are called tokamaks. And if you get your magnets out of alignment, you get the magnetic?containment vessel all distorted, and the plasma inside it escapes, and normally you have just lost a laboratory. But you learn from your lesson.

And it appears to be, generally, the same kind of an effect that's occurring on the sun. And we have to acknowledge that even NASA has come out recently and said they haven't got a clue as to why the sun is behaving this way.

It should've been this, but no, it didn't do that. It should've been into cycle 24 with some intensity, because they figured it was going to peak in 2012. And if it's going to do that, it should've started really getting active two years ago, which it did not.

Jay:  In fact, the opposite happened.

Cliff:  Correct. Now, in my theory here, or in my addition to Geryl's work, it kind of makes sense that this would occur, that we'd have an absence of sunspots. Because, basically, what occurs to create a sunspot is the coincident alignment of one of the magnetic lines of force being bent by the pole of the planet and sort of crawling up over the face of the sun, and it coincidentally aligns at 19.47 degrees of latitude with a structure internal to the sun itself. And if there is no alignment with the structure, no sunspot is formed at that magnetic alignment point. If there is, the two hook up together for this internal rotation of the sun, approximately 26 degrees, and we would see the sunspot appear, be dark, which really is a cooling in the sort of elbow, if you will, of the magnetic bend, and it would rotate around the planet as that bend wound its way up and towards the pole.

And then, though, in the sense of many windings of cloth around a croquet ball, ultimately you get to the point where those windings are all now below the 19.47 degrees, and you should have an absence of sunspots. In fact, it should continue, in a real sense, until the absolute blow?off of all this external energy.

And it may indeed be even the last countdown, so to speak, when all the sunspots shift over to a very chaotic kind, not a usual kind at all but something that'll erupt in a few hours and disappear.

These are predictable, and they would be occurring because the individual magnetic lines of force are not able to wrap themselves around the sun anymore, but they can still twist internally, thus briefly exposing holes in the sun's intense magnetic envelope around it and creating an illusion, so to speak, of a sunspot.

And so, if we get to that level, where we've got these chaotic kind of eruptions all over the sun, I would be able to say that, all right, we're in X number of days of the final blow?off of this external energy. And it should be quite predictable from that point forward.

Jay:  So we're looking for sudden and fast magnetic storms that come and go quickly.

Cliff:  Correct.

Jay:  And when that starts happening on a daily or a weekly basis, we know we're getting close to the blow?off of this thing, which could result in what?

Cliff:  Well, which will result in a giant magnetic sphere headed outward. There are some questions as to whether the magnetic sphere would be of a uniform nature or a rather haphazard nature in terms of how much magnetism and in what area of the sphere as it expands. But within some general constraints, that sphere should be fairly equally magnetically active, and it should erupt out well beyond the orbits of the inner planets, and that we're in the inner?planet category, and that may include us.

And if that happens, then Earth is going to get hit with a wave of magnetism that may be so large and so intense that humans and other life would feel it as a form of gravity as it sort of went through the planet. And in its very most?severe form, if it happened to be of a negative or southern polarity, it would cause a pole shift in our magnetic pole, which may result in a crustal shift as well.

Jay:  My Q'ero friends in the Andes Mountains tell me that what they predict is a term that's called Pachacuti, which means "the world turned upside?down." I asked them what they saw happening around 2012, and they said, "Well, we're really going to miss our white brothers."

Cliff:  [laughs] Well, we're going to miss them, too, I'm sure. [laughter]

Jay:  Well, I think they have plans. [laughs]

Cliff:  It kind of makes sense, too, this sort of thing happening periodically. Geryl's math is very precise. It makes sense if you imagine that there's this rather complex nature of the sun that gets all whipped up and maintains this date for a while, 11,000 some?odd years. Then you can look back and say, "Hmm." If that kind of thing occurs, and you get the giant waves that Geryl thinks would occur, then living in places like Machu Picchu makes a whole lot of sense. And that's why they went to the trouble to create such.

Jay:  That's right. And the legends, of course, are that Viracocha stayed in the caves during he last catastrophe and came out and recreated civilization. This is the very central myth of the Q'ero. And so we can see that all of this has been going on for a long time, and it is a periodic thing. And as Fulcanelli warns us, nature is renewed by fire. So this is an event that actually could be argued, in a bizarre spiritual way, as a good thing.

Cliff:  I would actually think it is good, especially in an electromagnetic. And it probably is required to recharge our magnetosphere, which, curiously, recharges 11,000 years.

Jay:  That's exactly right. And so I tell people that this has to happen, because we're densifying at such a rapid rate, at this point, time is literally condensing. Our reaction times are getting shorter, and a potential event caused by human failure is certainly quite possible at this moment. We're going to be right back. We're talking to Cliff High. Cliff, what's your site with all the cool graphics? Where's that at?

Cliff:  Halfpasthuman.com. You can pick it up off the main page, called "radio special."